Dead Pool 2008

[Bill Stamper]

Dead Pool 2008 begins Monday December 17th...

Pick the ten different people you think will expire in the year 2008. It is customary to pick people who are relatively well known. So please don't say Grandma Ruby or my boss John Smith.

One list of ten guesses per person allowed. Your score at the end of the year is calculated by taking each person's age who died that you guessed, and subtracting it from 100. If you pick someone over 100, then you get no points for that person. The person who gets the highest total score wins 3 months of FoG/FoW from yours truly Bill Stamper. (that's an added value of $3 over the past year's prize)

Your PM to me must be sent by the stroke of midnight on New Years Eve/Day. Any PMs after midnight east coat time will not count. You may put an alternate in your PM in case one of your picks dies between the time you PM me and 1/1. However it isn't required because you will have a chance to submit a replacement if one of your picks dies before 1/1, as long as you PM me with it by 1/1.

Ties will be resolved first by most number of picks dying in a roster, and then second by the earliest roster turned in if the first tie-breaker doesn't decide it.

The winner will be announced on January 1, 2009.

Deaths will be counted only in the case of "confirmable" deaths during the calendar year (aka "The Fidel Castro Rule").

Picks must be human. (aka "The Lassie Rule")

All picks must have some element of celebrity, fame, or political relevance so that an announcement will be mentioned in some credible news source.

None may be currently under a state-mandated death sentence, nor may their celebrity or fame be based primarily on their moribund state or terminal illness. (aka "The Terry Schiavo Rule")

The only people not allowed this year: None (other than people who fall under the Terry Schiavo rule) - everyone else is fair game including Ariel Sharon and Fidel Castro. Just remember that if a person dies but it isn't confirmed until after 12/31/08, it doesn't count.

Please give me and Roger until Monday to exchange our lists before PMing me with your list. If you feel the need to post your list to the thread please wait until 1/1.

One last thing. Only submit your guesses by PM, not anon-email. It is too much of a hassle to put the list together with some of both.

[otis89]

Sweet! I'm in again! I guess I need to get busy picking people! Should I keep Castro on my list again this year? So many decisions to make!

[Jayelle]

Thanks for hosting this again! :)

[Bill Stamper]

It's fun doing it. And at least this year I got some points. I am aiming to do better in 2008

Thanks for hosting this again! :)

[BookMasterJMV]

I've become a fan of the '07 thread, but wasn't here to sign up for it in the beginning of the year -- it's different this time though!

:) Thanks for hosting, Bill.

[River City]

maybe I'll get more than one death in 2008 :D

[Rich the Mixologist]

I'm in. With my batting average, I'm quite sure that nine out my ten guesses will have a very healthy year.:rolleyes:

[Jay]

My list is ready to go.

Can you put our alternates in your spreadsheet? It would be fun to see who almost got points but guessed just a little wrong.

[Mike in Buffalo]

I'm in for another year. Maybe this time I will have more success.

[Equipment Goddess]

I'm new to the Dead Pool, anyone have any insider information they would like to share?

[South City Joe]

I'm new to the Dead Pool, anyone have any insider information they would like to share?


Don't pick ten people in their 20's or early 30's no matter their propensity to bad behaviour. Just personal advice from me.

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[ParrotHead]

Insider information is the key to success so sharing is like giving up points. You have to pick names based on what you have heard from the news, internet, and radio. A radio station I listen two here in Omaha has some competitors doing this - http://www.tntradioempire.com/


You have to pick some people who are older, lived well or exciting lives, people you have heard have cancer, or the people living on the edge, (Anna Nicole Smith types).


I must admit, I really felt bad earlier this year when Luciano Pavarotti passed away. I knew he was sick for a long time but me getting points from his death made me feel bad. and it did change my 2008 picks slightly.

[Bill Stamper]

Roger and I have exchanged lists, so you can PM your lists any time now.

[Bill Stamper]

We're off and running. Including Roger and me, we are up to 6 people already and it's officially only 8 minutes into the contest.

[Fra3nk in Philadelphia]

I'm in. All of my 2007 choices are still alive. Some from that list have rolled over, and there are some different ones.

[Helene]

I'm in, too, but I'll wait until almost last minute to send in my picks, since they (those on my 2008 list) has done such a job at dying in 2007, so far.

It's a hard job to pick people. Last year, I felt worst about putting Pavarotti on my list, knowing that he was ill, and that he was one of the most beloved people in the world. OTOH, I picked Paul Harvey, who I am convinced is already dead and just propped up with someone's hand up his back and acting as ventriloquist. :p

Am still on the fence about Castro. Who knows?

And so far I have been unable to come up with anyone with the life-style of Anna Nicole Smith, bless her doped-up little soul. :eek:

[Lisa in Delaware]

I'm in once again, will be sending picks soon.:D

[Mike in Pittsburgh]

All my 2007 picks are still alive (except Gerald Ford who died right after I picked him at the end of 2006 so I had to replace him) so unless the asteroid hits, I'm sure many of the elderly rich and famous are hoping I'll name them. :D Anyway, I'm in. Picks forthcoming shortly.

[Helene]

For those new to the game, here's a link to the Dead or Alive website. It helps to confirm that the people on your list are still alive, as I was researching more than one person who had already died. :o

http://www.deadoraliveinfo.com/dead.nsf/pages-nf/main

[Bill Stamper]

16 people are in so far....

[rugbyricky]

I will be in as well. Must put together a list. Does this cost anything?

Thanks

RR

[Bill Stamper]

totally free for you. The only cost is for me to pay for the prize at the end of the year... But I gladly contribute to the site, so it isn't a big deal.

[Falling rock]

I'm in list sent

[JudiOz]

working on my list.
2 of my 2007 picks went this year so i have to find replacements ... but the harder part is figuring out which names to take OFF the list and switch out for some that didn't make my cut last year.
UGH! keep second guessing myself :p

[River City]

Got my list in

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Bill Stamper, would it be possible to get a comparison of the 2007 and 2008 lists to see who carried over and how popular some picks were?

[Rich the Mixologist]

PMed my list yesterday. Good luck to all.

[Mike in Pittsburgh]

and to judge by this story, Queen Elizabeth and Prince Philip are probably not good picks for 2008...

http://www.yahoo.com/s/765434
Queen Elizabeth II becomes Britain's oldest monarch
by Katherine Haddon



LONDON (AFP) - Queen Elizabeth II was set to become Britain's oldest monarch Thursday, overtaking her great-great grandmother Queen Victoria, although in discreet royal fashion no events were planned to mark the record.
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"This is just another normal working day for the queen," a royal spokeswoman told AFP, adding that the 81-year-old was spending the day in Buckingham Palace dealing with routine paperwork and some Christmas correspondence.
"There's nothing the queen is doing to mark the occasion," she added.
Victoria died in 1901 aged 81 years and 243 days. Elizabeth was to pass Victoria's record at around 5:00 pm Thursday -- taking into account times of birth and death, according to Buckingham Palace.

She is the world's second-longest serving monarch alive, after Thai King Bhumibol Adulyadej. She has outlasted 11 prime ministers -- the first was Sir Winston Churchill -- and is the first to have a prime minister, Tony Blair, born during her reign.

Victoria will retain the record for longest-serving monarch ever for some time, though: she ruled Britain and its empire for nearly 64 years. Elizabeth will surpass if that she is still on the throne on September 9, 2015.
Coincidentally, the youngest member of the British royal family, the newborn son of the queen's youngest child, Prince Edward, left hospital Thursday following his birth Monday.

Despite her age, the queen shows little sign of slowing down -- last month, she and her husband Prince Philip visited Uganda for the Commonwealth Heads of Government meeting and she carried out 425 official engagements last year.

"Even allowing for the improvement in medicine since Victoria, it is remarkable," Peter Hennessy, professor of contemporary British history at Queen Mary's college, University of London, told the Daily Telegraph.
Any sign of ageing is pored over by the media, such as when she appeared at an official engagement this week with a large bruise on her neck. Royal officials said it was the result of a knock and was "nothing to worry about".

Notwithstanding her gruelling timetable and the high respect which most Britons have for her, there are signs that the monarchy is starting to think about what will happen when she dies, even if she is currently in good health.

Heir to the throne Prince Charles went to Uganda last month with his parents, attending his first Commonwealth leaders summit outside Britain.
The Daily Telegraph newspaper quoted an unnamed senior Commonwealth source at the time as saying the question of whether Charles would become head of the 53-nation body was being actively considered.
Charles's own position in Britain has strengthened thanks to the successful integration of his second wife Camilla -- with whom he had an affair during his marriage to the late princess Diana -- into the royal family.

Thanks to her low-key charity work and seemingly warm relations with stepsons princes William and Harry, public opinion of the woman Diana dubbed "the Rottweiler" is beginning to thaw.
Some 28 percent of people say they want her as queen when Charles takes over, compared to just seven percent in 2005.

Insiders including Elizabeth's cousin Margaret Rhodes say it is highly unlikely she will step down early -- the abdication of Edward VIII in 1936, which forced her father to take over, is a painful chapter in royal history.

"Abdication I don't think is an issue, or something that's even in consideration to the Queen," said Robert Jobson, a journalist and author of books on the royal family.

So while the queen could still, in the words of the national anthem, be "long to reign over us", the royal family seems determined to make sure that when the inevitable does finally happen, the transition is smooth. Buckingham Palace said the Queen's next public engagement is on Christmas Day (December 25), when she will attend a church service on her Sandringham country estate in the county of Norfolk, eastern England.

[South City Joe]

Started with about 45 folks on the list, and thanks to a pair of scissors, a paper bag and the capricious randomness of the universe, I whittled down my list to 10 and two alternates. PM sent a few moments ago, so I'm committed now.

I am not a big follower of the Celebrity Malady scene, so I just tried to pick old folks that few others might pick. All well known, but likely to elicit an "Oh, yeah, I remember them" or "they're still alive?" response.

How about you guys? Don't give away all your secrets, but give us a hint how you picked your geezers.

.

[Jay]

For 2007 I basically took some of the most popular picks in 2006. For 2008, I'm keeping my list and making a few changes based on picks made by the top players.

[River City]

and to judge by this story, Queen Elizabeth and Prince Philip are probably not good picks for 2008...

considering Queen Elizabeths mother lived til she was over 100 or 100 (dont remember) I'd think picking Elizabeth or any of her kids or grandkids would be a long shot.

but thats just me

[Bill Stamper]

20 lists so far. There several people on my list I didn't think anyone else would guess, but someone did guess at least one of them.....

[Helene]

Started with about 45 folks on the list, and thanks to a pair of scissors, a paper bag and the capricious randomness of the universe, I whittled down my list to 10 and two alternates. PM sent a few moments ago, so I'm committed now.

I am not a big follower of the Celebrity Malady scene, so I just tried to pick old folks that few others might pick. All well known, but likely to elicit an "Oh, yeah, I remember them" or "they're still alive?" response.

How about you guys? Don't give away all your secrets, but give us a hint how you picked your geezers.

.

Oh, I like the idea of picking random names out of a hat. I may have to resort to that tactic to trim my list down from thw 27 that are on it right now.

[ParrotHead]

20 lists so far. There several people on my list I didn't think anyone else would guess, but someone did guess at least one of them.....



Could you list who you have entered already? Not the picks, who entered picks?

[Denver Cubs Fan]

I came up with a list of about 40, then mostly picked totally randomly. Only 2 of mine are younger than 79, though... One in 50's, one in 60's.

[South City Joe]

I came up with a list of about 40, then mostly picked totally randomly. Only 2 of mine are younger than 79, though... One in 50's, one in 60's.

The earlist birth year of my picks was 1915 (92 yrs old) and the latest was 1940 (67 yo). Most were 1920's and a few 1930's.

My strategy last year, despite being theoretically reasonable, was disappointing. People in their twenties just seen too resiliant despite their own best efforts toward Darwin Awards.

.

[Joe the Mailman]

I'm game. List to be sent in shortly.

[ChristineEnedy]

My list is in... played it safe this year. Picked all "older" people.

[Melly French]

I will send my list in a few days. I have to keep narrowing down. Plus, I have to go with my gut, it served me well last year.

[Stitching Amy]

I just sent my list in. Good luck everyone!

[Joe the Mailman]

PM'd my list.:eek:

[Mike in Buffalo]

PMed my list just now. A mix of my 2007 choices and a few new ones to replace my picks who I decided might last a little longer after all. Also had to replace Bill Walsh, since I actually did manage to predict his passing.

[Bill Stamper]

If you have PMd me and somehow you aren't on the list within 3-4 days, please let me know.

1. B.S.
2. RiE
3. kawaiianme
4. Brad in Victoria
5. ParrotHead
6. Jayelle
7. Travis WOLF
8. KsherHomey
9. BIG
10. Jay
11. Rich the Mixologist
12. T.J. in Poke County
13. Conker
14. aces1820
15. Falling Rock
16. River City
17. Equipment Goddess
18. comeasur337
19. South City Joe
20. Jica
21. Denver Cubs Fan
22. ChristineEnedy
23. Joe the Mailman
24. Stitching Amy
25. Lisa in Delaware
26. Mike in Buffalo

[bear in pa]

ahhhh hhaaaaaa ! i always forget about this and never seem to stumble across it till too late. :o now i gotta get busy putting a list together.

[aces1820]

I was tossing around a few names, and then during my grandfather's birthday party, I was reading the gossip magazines (Enquirer, People, etc.) I got some other ideas. Problem is, I already sent in my list but we'll be back there on Christmas, and those magazines might give me some other ideas.
My one rule is that I won't pick anyone just because I dislike them. So while there's always a reasonable chance of a somewhat famous racer being killed in an event during the year, I have no way of guessing who, and don't wish that upon anyone, even if they are a racer I don't care for. Same for country musicians, that although I could probably make a themed list like that, I won't just name one at random. Everyone on my list I feel does have a reasonable chance of not making it through they year.

[Helene]

....I was reading the gossip magazines (Enquirer, People, etc.) I got some other ideas. Problem is, I already sent in my list ....

Which is why my list is under construction until the last day! Last year we lost Gerald Ford the day after Christmas, and a number of people were doing last--minute revisions.

Besides, I've been running a list of potential 2008 candidates all year, and I've already lost a number of them. Like I said, my list is "under construction".

[DAVED]

i whittled my list of 24 down to 10 and 2 alternates. commence dying! :D

[Bill Stamper]

Don't you mean "Die Already" ;)

i whittled my list of 24 down to 10 and 2 alternates. commence dying! :D

[Bill Stamper]

1. B.S.
2. RiE
3. kawaiianme
4. Brad in Victoria
5. ParrotHead
6. Jayelle
7. Travis WOLF
8. KsherHomey
9. BIG
10. Jay
11. Rich the Mixologist
12. T.J. in Poke County
13. Conker
14. aces1820
15. Falling Rock
16. River City
17. Equipment Goddess
18. comeasur337
19. South City Joe
20. Jica
21. Denver Cubs Fan
22. ChristineEnedy
23. Joe the Mailman
24. Stitching Amy
25. Lisa in Delaware
26. Mike in Buffalo
27. Becky the Jersey Girl
28. DAVED
29. Sir William

[aces1820]

Someone must have gotten to the gossip mags before me, all I could find today was a 2007 recap issue of People, so now I know lots of people who died, but got no further hints on who might.

[TankGirl]

working on my new list. may keep a few, but definately plan on me pm'ing you before the "deadline" gotta do some research. Next day or so I should have a good solid 10 picks out of the 20+ I've jotted down.

[Terry in Alaska]

Bump back to page 1..I'm in this year.

[Bill Stamper]

Welcome pool members #30 to 34. The clock is ticking. Only four more days to get your entry in.

1. B.S.
2. RiE
3. kawaiianme
4. Brad in Victoria
5. ParrotHead
6. Jayelle
7. Travis WOLF
8. KsherHomey
9. BIG
10. Jay
11. Rich the Mixologist
12. T.J. in Poke County
13. Conker
14. aces1820
15. Falling Rock
16. River City
17. Equipment Goddess
18. comeasur337
19. South City Joe
20. Jica
21. Denver Cubs Fan
22. ChristineEnedy
23. Joe the Mailman
24. Stitching Amy
25. Lisa in Delaware
26. Mike in Buffalo
27. Becky the Jersey Girl
28. DAVED
29. Sir William
30. Melly French
31. Terry in Alaska
32. Hikini
33. Mike in Pittsbirgh
34. Lesley

[Melly French]

Yahh, you got mine! Remember what happened last year? I sent it and then came 1/1/07 and I wasn't included. You said you must have accidently deleted it. I feel much better seeing my name on the list!!

[Bill Stamper]

Every year the system gets more streamlined.

Yahh, you got mine! Remember what happened last year? I sent it and then came 1/1/07 and I wasn't included. You said you must have accidently deleted it. I feel much better seeing my name on the list!!

[Melly French]

And every year, its harder for me to make up my D mind!!!

[ParrotHead]

And every year, its harder for me to make up my D mind!!!

I think that is called "Old Age". ;)

[Melly French]

ahhh, then maybe I should have put my own name on my list!!!

[bear in pa]

PM sent. :)

[Stitching Amy]

Bump only a few more days left!!

[Bill Stamper]

Is there FoG in Heaven? Otherwise, how are you gonna collect?

ahhh, then maybe I should have put my own name on my list!!!

[Melly French]

I will bequeth it to a fellow georger. It might be worth it cause I am a whopping 69 points if I go before 9/13!!

[rugbyricky]

My pm is sent.:D

[Bill Stamper]

UPDATED on 12/30/07
Welcome pool members #38-41. (P.S. - DAVED your edit is also noted) The clock is ticking. Only one + day to get your entry in.

1. B.S.
2. RiE
3. kawaiianme
4. Brad in Victoria
5. ParrotHead
6. Jayelle
7. Travis WOLF
8. KsherHomey
9. BIG
10. Jay
11. Rich the Mixologist
12. T.J. in Poke County
13. Conker
14. aces1820
15. Falling Rock
16. River City
17. Equipment Goddess
18. comeasur337
19. South City Joe
20. Jica
21. Denver Cubs Fan
22. ChristineEnedy
23. Joe the Mailman
24. Stitching Amy
25. Lisa in Delaware
26. Mike in Buffalo
27. Becky the Jersey Girl
28. DAVED
29. Sir William
30. Melly French
31. Terry in Alaska
32. Hikini
33. Mike in Pittsbirgh
34. Lesley
35. bear in pa
36. stevetas
37. rugby ricky
38. Chicken Hawk
39. Jenin Amherst
40. Adam82
41. Helene

[Terry in Alaska]

Bump for the Johnny Come Lately's.

[Helene]

My list is at nine, and I have a choice from about 10 candidates for position #10 on my list. This will bug me all day today until I make up my mind!

[Bill Stamper]

You aren't going to put Melly French on your list are you?

[Helene]

No, I didn't put Melly on my list. :rolleyes:

But I did finally send my list in. So now I am official.

[Adam82]

My list has been sent!

[Bill Stamper]

OK, tell our friends and neighbors to get their list in ASAP before it is too late for 2008

[TankGirl]

ok, my pm is sent...hoping I picked live ones still :rolleyes:

[Helene]

I posted it on the Western Forum, to invite all from over there to join us.

[Bill Stamper]

OK, there is less than 24 hours left at this point.

[Ruthie]

My list is in, finally. Difficult choices!

[NIRVANA]

Ok I'm in, only carried a few names over.

[Chicken Hawk]

Will we see an updated player list today? I wasn't on the last one. :confused:

[Joe the Mailman]

Only a few hours left

[jim1986]

My PM just sent

[Bill Stamper]

14+ hours left

UPDATED on 12/31/07 at 925 eastern time.
Welcome pool members #42-47.

1. B.S.
2. RiE
3. kawaiianme
4. Brad in Victoria
5. ParrotHead
6. Jayelle
7. Travis WOLF
8. KsherHomey
9. BIG
10. Jay
11. Rich the Mixologist
12. T.J. in Poke County
13. Conker
14. aces1820
15. Falling Rock
16. River City
17. Equipment Goddess
18. comeasur337
19. South City Joe
20. Jica
21. Denver Cubs Fan
22. ChristineEnedy
23. Joe the Mailman
24. Stitching Amy
25. Lisa in Delaware
26. Mike in Buffalo
27. Becky the Jersey Girl
28. DAVED
29. Sir William
30. Melly French
31. Terry in Alaska
32. Hikini
33. Mike in Pittsbirgh
34. Lesley
35. bear in pa
36. stevetas
37. rugby ricky
38. Chicken Hawk
39. Jenin Amherst
40. Adam82
41. Helene
42. Tank Girl
43. marikun
44. Ruthie
45. NIRVANA
46. tjolly
47. jim1986

[Melly French]

How many participated this last year compared to the 47 we have so far this year?

[Bill Stamper]

58 last year.

We still have at least one or two more to add to the list. But I am not going to update it again until midnight. Unless there is a huge deluge.

[BookMasterJMV]

Always waiting for the last minute, I am. List is sent :)

[george1861]

PM sent!

[otis89]

My list has been sent in.

[Bill Stamper]

#48 through #53 have been added as of 10p.m. Eastern Time

48. Mojavewanderer
49. BookMasterJMV
50. Otis89
51. RJ (amd Super Enabler Diane)
52. george1861
53. prunetucky byron


Less than two hours left to get your lists in.

[Bill Stamper]

54. Disaster Chick
55. IlanaBenMa
56. Bob Wegotababyitsaboy!


Less than an hour......

[IlanaBenMa]

Who won the 2007 contest? I got my list in for 2008 just under the wire.

[otis89]

It hasn't officially ended yet, but ParrotHead is clearly going to win.

[Joe the Mailman]

4 more minutes. Let's get going you laggards

[Bill Stamper]

Bob Wegotababyitsaboy! is officially the last entrant.... No more lists accepted until things open up for 2009... Let the dying begin.

[Bill Stamper]

And the lists


http://www.pcfubar.net/wg/deadpool

[Bill Stamper]

I would change one pick of mine if I could. Since I couldn't change my list after I started receiving yours it was too late to substitute this person. But mark my words... I think Bilawal Zardari is going to bring two people a LOT of points.

[South City Joe]

Well, on quick inspection, I met my minor goal of having names that no one else picked.

But no telling how that will turn out till the end...

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[Disaster Chick]

I originally had Verne "Mini-Me" Troyer on my list. But I ended up losing it and forgetting about him until after I pressed send.

[Equipment Goddess]

This is my first time, I had not clue one what I was doing, so we'll see how well (or bad) I did

[Helene]

Very interesting lists! Congrats to everyone on some great choices, many of which I wish I had made!

A technical question.... I guess if they find Steve Fawcett, there will be an answer, but what happens with people declared "legally dead"? Is it when they disappear, or when the court ruling is, or are they never truly eligible for the game?

Just curious.

[Chicken Hawk]

I'm going out on a limb here and saying that those of you who picked Lady Bird Johnson aren't getting any points for her. ;)

[otis89]

D'oh! I was not paying attention! :o

[Chicken Hawk]

D'oh! I was not paying attention! :oYou never know. Maybe she'll die again. :p

[Bob Wegotababyitsaboy!]

I was tossing around a few names, and then during my grandfather's birthday party, I was reading the gossip magazines (Enquirer, People, etc.) I got some other ideas. Problem is, I already sent in my list but we'll be back there on Christmas, and those magazines might give me some other ideas.
My one rule is that I won't pick anyone just because I dislike them. So while there's always a reasonable chance of a somewhat famous racer being killed in an event during the year, I have no way of guessing who, and don't wish that upon anyone, even if they are a racer I don't care for. Same for country musicians, that although I could probably make a themed list like that, I won't just name one at random. Everyone on my list I feel does have a reasonable chance of not making it through they year.

Last year I decided to pick only people that go by 1 name.
This year I decided to pick only people that go by 3 names, intials counted as a name.

This year I forgot about it till the last minute, so I was bouncing ideas of my step-brother, step-mother, and my step-brother's friend.
I got a few names off them, but that didn't last long, so I hit Wikipedia.
I ended up looking at an episode list of the Simpsons with celebrities that have voiced for that episode.
The Simpsons list gave me most of my names.

[Chicken Hawk]

So did anyone die yet? :p

[BIG]

All my picks were men born in 1940.

[Joe the Mailman]

Good Luck everyone!:eek:

[DAVED]

i haven't looked at the list yet (and i can't wait to!) but my 14 year-old son just brought up an interesting point: what if someone picked Jamie Lynn Spears' baby? would it count because the baby has been conceived or would it not count because the baby has not yet been born?

i just thought this was interesting that a 14 year-old asked this question. it is certainly not meant to start a serious discussion about when life begins or -- for us Seinfeld fans -- when a pizza becomes a pizza.

happy new year!

[DAVED]

as i look at others' lists, i notice many of their picks were in my Top 25 but didn't make my Final 10. but there are a few surprises:

is Suzanne Pleschette ill?

i'm surprised to see Allan Arbus on multiple lists. is Dr Freedman a patient?

Stephen Stills? i've had David Crosby on my list in the past, but Stephen Stills? inquiring minds want to know.

and no one had Sara Jane Moore (http://www6.comcast.net/news/articles/national/2008/01/01/Ford.Assailant/?cvqh=itn_ford), who i now wonder about. was she released for health reasons?

[DAVED]

All my picks were men born in 1940.
nice theme, but Chuck Norris won't die. he may move to Heaven, but he won't die.

[Bill Stamper]

Mrs. Bob Hartley has cancer I believe.
Sidney Fiedman is old as dirt.

as i look at others' lists, i notice many of their picks were in my Top 25 but didn't make my Final 10. but there are a few surprises:

is Suzanne Pleschette ill?

i'm surprised to see Allan Arbus on multiple lists. is Dr Freedman a patient?

Stephen Stills? i've had David Crosby on my list in the past, but Stephen Stills? inquiring minds want to know.

and no one had Sara Jane Moore (http://www6.comcast.net/news/articles/national/2008/01/01/Ford.Assailant/?cvqh=itn_ford), who i now wonder about. was she released for health reasons?

[Jay]

I think Bilawal Zardari is going to bring two people a LOT of points.Who is that?

[River City]

Stephen Stills? i've had David Crosby on my list in the past, but Stephen Stills? inquiring minds want to know.


Stills was diagnosed with cancer right around the time Dan Fogleberg died

[george1861]

i'm surprised to see Allan Arbus on multiple lists. is Dr Freedman a patient?

Stephen Stills? i've had David Crosby on my list in the past, but Stephen Stills? inquiring minds want to know.

Recent announcement Prostate cancer(?), with the usual "He's doing well"

[Jay]

what if someone picked Jamie Lynn Spears' baby? would it count because the baby has been conceived or would it not count because the baby has not yet been born?Since the rules don't expressly prohibit picking fetuses, it would count and be 100 points for the one who is so lucky. The rules do state, "All picks must have some element of celebrity, fame, or political relevance so that an announcement will be mentioned in some credible news source." The miscarriage or death of a celebrity's newborn would probably get mentioned in a credible news source, so it meets that criterion.

I guess Bill Stamper could decide to disallow those who are not yet born. One way he can do that is by making entries have a specific name and not allowing entries that aren't named before they die. For example, if you put "Jamie Lynn Spears's baby" on your list for 2008, and she has twins, and one of them dies, then you would have a case for getting 100 points. (Or 200 or even 300 if she has multiples and more than one dies.) However, by requiring you to name the baby, then if she miscarries, then you cannot count the baby since you did not know the baby's name before the death.

[River City]

Who is that?

Bilawal Bhutto Zardari

is Chairman of the Pakistan Peoples Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pakistan_Peoples_Party) and only son of the late Pakistani (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pakistani) politician and former Prime Minister (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime_Minister_of_Pakistan) Benazir Bhutto (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benazir_Bhutto)

Thank you Wikipedia!!!! :D

[DAVED]

Since the rules don't expressly prohibit picking fetuses, it would count and be 100 points for the one who is so lucky. The rules do state, "All picks must have some element of celebrity, fame, or political relevance so that an announcement will be mentioned in some credible news source." The miscarriage or death of a celebrity's newborn would probably get mentioned in a credible news source, so it meets that criterion.

I guess Bill Stamper could decide to disallow those who are not yet born. One way he can do that is by making entries have a specific name and not allowing entries that aren't named before they die. For example, if you put "Jamie Lynn Spears's baby" on your list for 2008, and she has twins, and one of them dies, then you would have a case for getting 100 points. (Or 200 or even 300 if she has multiples and more than one dies.) However, by requiring you to name the baby, then if she miscarries, then you cannot count the baby since you did not know the baby's name before the death.
BS replied to me saying he'd make a ruling on this for next year. the scenario doesn't come into play this year, so no worries.

as i pondered this, i thought the very same thing as you, Jay, that the deceased should be named.

and kudos for using the correct singular of criteria.

[DAVED]

i color-coded my list for some added help....

Al Davis
Fidel Castro
Betty Ford
Muhammed Ali
Bilawal Zardari
Roger Ebert
Nancy Reagan
Farrah Fawcett
Andy Rooney
Jerry Lewis

[Chicken Hawk]

as i look at others' lists, i notice many of their picks were in my Top 25 but didn't make my Final 10. but there are a few surprises:

is Suzanne Pleschette ill?

i'm surprised to see Allan Arbus on multiple lists. is Dr Freedman a patient?

Stephen Stills? i've had David Crosby on my list in the past, but Stephen Stills? inquiring minds want to know.

and no one had Sara Jane Moore (http://www6.comcast.net/news/articles/national/2008/01/01/Ford.Assailant/?cvqh=itn_ford), who i now wonder about. was she released for health reasons?I'm more concerned with the prominence of such people like Michael J Fox, Teri Garr and Annette Funicello. These people have NON FATAL neurological disorders. Disabling, progressive and life altering, yes. But their life spans will not be shortened (in most cases.) This has been a public service announcement.

[River City]

I'm more concerned with the prominence of such people like Michael J Fox, Teri Garr and Annette Funicello. These people have NON FATAL neurological disorders. Disabling, progressive and life altering, yes. But their life spans will not be shortened (in most cases.) This has been a public service announcement.

Knew about Fox and Funicello, but Garr is sick?

I understand your concern, but considering the nature of this game. Picking people that are Ill no matter the condition gives you a chance at guessing right.

over half my list has some sort of illness which factored into my picking them.

[River City]

my list


Stephen Stills
Elizabeth Edwards
Zsa Zsa Gabor
Charlton Heston
Muhammad Ali
Stephen Hawking
Charles Manson
Ronnie Biggs
Bob Dole
Paul Harvey

[Stitching Amy]

my list

Stephen Stills
Elizabeth Edwards
Zsa Zsa Gabor
Charlton Heston
Muhammad Ali
Stephen Hawking
Charles Manson
Ronnie Biggs
Bob Dole
Paul Harvey

I didn't think we were allowed to pick people on death row? :confused:

[Adam82]

I didn't think we were allowed to pick people on death row? :confused:
Manson is serving life in prison. He's no longer on death row, as California abolished the death penalty while he was in prison. Even though they reinstated it, he was not moved back onto death row.

[Bill Stamper]

Manson's death sentence converted into "life" when California stopped the use of the death penalty. Upon its reinstatement, Manson's sentence didn't return to a death sentence.

I didn't think we were allowed to pick people on death row? :confused:

[Bill Stamper]

You beat me to it.

Manson is serving life in prison. He's no longer on death row, as California abolished the death penalty while he was in prison. Even though they reinstated it, he was not moved back onto death row.

[Mike in Buffalo]

my list

Stephen Stills
Elizabeth Edwards
Zsa Zsa Gabor
Charlton Heston
Muhammad Ali
Stephen Hawking
Charles Manson
Ronnie Biggs
Bob Dole
Paul Harvey

I had to look up Biggs on wikipedia to find out who he is.

[Chicken Hawk]

Knew about Fox and Funicello, but Garr is sick?

I understand your concern, but considering the nature of this game. Picking people that are Ill no matter the condition gives you a chance at guessing right.

over half my list has some sort of illness which factored into my picking them.Teri Garr has MS, has for years.
Part of my point is that picking someone with this TYPE of illness isn't likely to be fruitful since the disease will not shorten life span. The odds are no better than picking someone with a toothache. These disorders are not life threatening or fatal.

I understand the nature of the game. I picked someone who is suicidal!! :p

[aces1820]

I'm going out on a limb here and saying that those of you who picked Lady Bird Johnson aren't getting any points for her. ;)

Ditto for Hank Thompson (unless there's someone else famous by that name besides the recently deceased country singer).

Looks like I only have 2 unique picks, Ferlin Husky & Richard Dawson. It hasn't been good for Match Game regulars lately. I'd have picked Gary Papa, a weather guy around here who also had a minor role in a movie, but I didn't know if he was famous enough. So I hope he hangs on until next year just because.

[ParrotHead]

Well here is an explanation of my picks many have some touch of cancer, drugs and age. Throw in the celebrity train wreck (Anna Nicole Smith ) type pick and here is what I ended up with.

Much of this came from Wicipedia and things I have heard from the radio, and TV.

Sheikh Omar Abdel-Rahman – serving a life sentence - medical authorities also discovered a tumor on his liver

Eunice Kennedy - Eunice has suffered several health setbacks in recent years, and on November 18, 2007, she was admitted to Massachusetts General Hospital where she remains today

Roy Richard Scheider – The actor who killed Jaws - In 2004, Scheider was diagnosed with myeloma (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myeloma), a cancer of the plasma cells, there is no cure for Myeloma, only treatment.

George Steinbrenner – not much official - http://sports.aol.com/fanhouse/2007/08/02/george-steinbrenner-is-not-aging-well/

Sandra Kay Yow – I struggled with this one, she is a marvelous lady who has fought breast cancer for years. In 2007, Yow received an ESPY award named after the late Jim Valvano for her perseverance in being able to continue to coach while battling cancer.

Farrah Fawcett - to travel to Germany for an experimental cancer treatment

Fidel Castro – many health issues here

Billy Graham - ecently revealed that he is suffering from prostate cancer.

Jack Kevorkian - Kevorkian was released from prison on June 1, 2007, on parole due to his failing health.

Amy Waterhouse – My “train wreck” pick - drugs are a bad bad thing.

Some of the names I had on my list of alternates. In no particular order:


Kirk Douglas – saw him recently on some show, does not look good
Bob Ubanks – mentioned on the radio for not being healthy
Tatum Fisher - Derek Fisher's daughter – not sure if she was famous enough and I did not want to pick a sick child, she is less then 2 years old. She has retinoblastoma a type of cancer in her eyes.
Benazir Bhutto – I had her on my draft board, would have I picked her on my final list?
Jenna Jamason – has looked terrible lately, I have been a big fan of her body of work

Others of mention
Elizabeth Taylor
Mickey Rooney
Zsa Zsa Gabor
B.B. King
Roger Ebert
Peter O’Toole

Train Wrecks waiting to happen
Britney Spears
Paris Hilton
Lindsay Lohan
Keven Federline
Nicole Richie
Jamie Lynn Spears
Brendon Frazier
Michael Jackson and family
Eric Rivera – not sure if famous enough – accused of shooting Sean Taylor the football player – prison is a bitch

[Jayelle]

i color-coded my list for some added help....

Al Davis
Fidel Castro
Betty Ford
Muhammed Ali
Bilawal Zardari
Roger Ebert
Nancy Reagan
Farrah Fawcett
Andy Rooney
Jerry Lewis

HA! That's FUNNY!! :D
I've rearranged mine to spell out similar!

Johnny Knoxville
Kirk Douglas
Jerry Lewis
Ernest Borgnine

Fidel Castro
Billy Graham
Michael J. Fox

Louis Farrakhan
Abe Vigoda
Betty White

[Disaster Chick]

IMO I would think a birth certificate needs to be issued for the person and a death certificate. If Jamie Lynn Spears were to miscarry (not as likely now she is in her 2nd trimester) a death certificate would not be issued for the fetus.

What's wrong with Brendon Frazier? I know he is going through a divorce, but I have heard that he is a very nice guy.

[Ruthie]

IMO I would think a birth certificate needs to be issued for the person and a death certificate. If Jamie Lynn Spears were to miscarry (not as likely now she is in her 2nd trimester) a death certificate would not be issued for the fetus.


With passage of SB850, the "Missing Angels Act" California now issues "certificates of stillbirth" in cases where a live birth did not take place, so there is no birth certificate or death certificate.

For more info: http://www.californiaprogressreport.com/2007/09/california_sena_14.html

[Falling rock]

who'll be the first to go?:D

[ParrotHead]

What's wrong with Brendon Frazier? I know he is going through a divorce, but I have heard that he is a very nice guy.


Young, with lots of money, partying around Hollywood. Strange things happen in that circle of friends.

[IlanaBenMa]

i haven't looked at the list yet (and i can't wait to!) but my 14 year-old son just brought up an interesting point: what if someone picked Jamie Lynn Spears' baby? would it count because the baby has been conceived or would it not count because the baby has not yet been born?

i just thought this was interesting that a 14 year-old asked this question. it is certainly not meant to start a serious discussion about when life begins or -- for us Seinfeld fans -- when a pizza becomes a pizza.

happy new year!
Oh no. Another source for religious contention.<G> Just kidding! I wouldn't be surprised if she miscarries though, as she sure isn't leading a very healthy lifestyle! Poor kid!(Both Jamie Lyn and her offspring)

[george1861]

Ditto for Hank Thompson (unless there's someone else famous by that name besides the recently deceased country singer).
Last I heard he was in poor health in a nursing home, guess I should have checked.:(

[Rich the Mixologist]

Here's my list:

Fidel Castro
Harry Belafonte
Lena Horne
Alex Trebek
John Forsythe
Estelle Getty
Harry Morgan
Ricardo Montalban
Betty Ford
Amy Winehouse

Most of my choices are up there in age. Amy Winehouse is my "Train Wreck" choice and I chose Alex Trebek due to his recent "minor" heart attack. (IMHO, due to my family history, there are no minor heart problems.)

[KsherHomey]

Is the official list out yet? I would like to see how much of a difference I have amongst everyone elses picks.

[Adam82]

Is the official list out yet? I would like to see how much of a difference I have amongst everyone elses picks.
Yes, it's linked in this thread.

[Stitching Amy]

Manson is serving life in prison. He's no longer on death row, as California abolished the death penalty while he was in prison. Even though they reinstated it, he was not moved back onto death row.

Thanks for answering that. I guess I should've checked into that because I was considering putting Manson on my list. :rolleyes:

[River City]

Thanks for answering that. I guess I should've checked into that because I was considering putting Manson on my list. :rolleyes:

Saw something on Manson a few months ago on CourtTv or History Channel that mentioned he had been up for parole and I figured his sentence had been changed to life with parole. Guessed he wasnt under a death sentence by that fact :)

[Becky the Jersey Girl]

All my picks were men born in 1940.

Since I was born in 1940, I'm glad I'm not a man. LOL!!

[Rich the Mixologist]

Author George MacDonald Fraser dead at 82 (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080102/ap_on_re_eu/obit_macdonald_fraser)

[Disaster Chick]

Young, with lots of money, partying around Hollywood. Strange things happen in that circle of friends.

I know he is like 38 or 39...older than me. I haven't really heard who he hangs around with. When I googled him I was able to pull up his bio, divorce announcement, someone got a DUI (but didn't appear to be him), some girls happy he is single again, and someone thinks his hair isn't natural.

[Bill Stamper]

General announcement: No one's list submitted after the deadline will be considered for the prize or included in the spreadsheet. Even though it may seem rigid to do this, it would not be fair to people that submitted their lists by the deadline if I don't honor the deadline because all of their picks were public at midnight.

[Helene]

http://www.bostonherald.com/news/obituaries/general/view.bg?articleid=1064142

Age 75.

And BTW, did we ever get a ruling on Steve Fawcett? If he had been on someone's 2007 list, but the body is found in 2008 with clear evidence that he died in 2007, would that alter the results. Hypothetical, because I don't think anyone had him on their list. And using the same example, is the a rule for "legally presumed dead"?

Just curious.

[Rich the Mixologist]

MADISON, Wis. - Former Gov. Lee Sherman Dreyfus, who signed the nation's first statewide gay rights law in 1982, has died. He was 81. (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080103/ap_on_re_us/obit_dreyfus)

[Bill Stamper]

This rule used to be the "Osama bin Laden" rule but maybe should be renamed the "Steve Fawcett" rule. The person needs to be confirmed dead within the year of the contest to get points. So if you picked Osama bin Laden this year, but they find his body and determine that he died in 2005 there will be no points. Furthermore, if you picked Steve Fawcett in 2007 but it isn't confirmed that he is dead until sometime this year then you get no points in 2007 even if he died last year, because he needed to be positively confirmed dead by 12/31/07 to count. Generally speaking, there needs to be a body. Or in the case of something like the Space Shuttle Columbia tragedy, knowing someone was on board is sufficient.



http://www.bostonherald.com/news/obituaries/general/view.bg?articleid=1064142

Age 75.

And BTW, did we ever get a ruling on Steve Fawcett? If he had been on someone's 2007 list, but the body is found in 2008 with clear evidence that he died in 2007, would that alter the results. Hypothetical, because I don't think anyone had him on their list. And using the same example, is the a rule for "legally presumed dead"?

Just curious.

[Bill Stamper]

Just a reminder that the spreadsheets for 2007 and 2008 are both included in this link.....

And the lists


http://www.pcfubar.net/wg/deadpool

[Bill Stamper]

three of you nearly had some points today... Britney threatened to kill herself, but didn't....

[Falling rock]

to the peson who picked keith richards only a stake though the heart will do him in

[ParrotHead]

Go ahead and say it! Many of you have noticed it and wondered "Who is Amy Waterhouse?" Good question besides my number 10 pick I have no idea who she is.

Go ahead and say it "YOU ARE A FREAKIN IDIOT!!!"

I wanted to pick Amy Winehouse but mistyped it and never caught it until a few days ago, after lists became final.

Now I have to search everywhere for an Amy Waterhouse to pass away.


and once more before I go - "PARROTHEAD, YOU'RE AN IDIOT!!!"

[Ruthie]

to the peson who picked keith richards only a stake though the heart will do him in

You are probably right about that! My theory is Faust, on that one.

I was very tempted to but Britney on there but couldn't bring myself to benefit from that doomed chicklet. Her Mama is beyond belief -- one ruined daughter and she's selling the other's sad pregnancy tale to the magazines. Unbelievable.

[Mike in Buffalo]

Go ahead and say it! Many of you have noticed it and wondered "Who is Amy Waterhouse?" Good question besides my number 10 pick I have no idea who she is.

Go ahead and say it "YOU ARE A FREAKIN IDIOT!!!"

I wanted to pick Amy Winehouse but mistyped it and never caught it until a few days ago, after lists became final.

Now I have to search everywhere for an Amy Waterhouse to pass away.


and once more before I go - "PARROTHEAD, YOU'RE AN IDIOT!!!"


Since I had no idea who Amy Winehouse is either, I don't think you're all that stupid.

[Helene]

Go ahead and say it! Many of you have noticed it and wondered "Who is Amy Waterhouse?" Good question besides my number 10 pick I have no idea who she is.

Go ahead and say it "YOU ARE A FREAKIN IDIOT!!!"

I wanted to pick Amy Winehouse but mistyped it and never caught it until a few days ago, after lists became final.

Now I have to search everywhere for an Amy Waterhouse to pass away.


and once more before I go - "PARROTHEAD, YOU'RE AN IDIOT!!!"


No, it's just the penalty you pay for winning last year's Pool. Sorta like handicapping.:p

And for other news, did anyone pick Suharto? He's not doing too well, I see.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22512994/

[Bill Stamper]

It will be updated soon enough. You don't have to hope an Amy Waterhouse will die.

Go ahead and say it! Many of you have noticed it and wondered "Who is Amy Waterhouse?" Good question besides my number 10 pick I have no idea who she is.

Go ahead and say it "YOU ARE A FREAKIN IDIOT!!!"

I wanted to pick Amy Winehouse but mistyped it and never caught it until a few days ago, after lists became final.

Now I have to search everywhere for an Amy Waterhouse to pass away.


and once more before I go - "PARROTHEAD, YOU'RE AN IDIOT!!!"

[TankGirl]

three of you nearly had some points today... Britney threatened to kill herself, but didn't....

my jaw dropped when I saw that on the news the other night. I was just now getting ready to check out the spread sheet, wondering about her. I hadn't heard any news in about 24 hrs, been watching alot of DVD movies instead of tv. I presume she is still teetering on the edge. Poor spoiled girl. I honestly hope she gets some help asap!!
ok, now I'll go peek at what the spread sheet has on it.

[Fra3nk in Philadelphia]

I missed the deadline for submission. Now watch my entire list drop dead within a week.

[TankGirl]

I missed the deadline for submission. Now watch my entire list drop dead within a week.

aww, that sux.
I noticed quite a few picked that Amy chick, I actually don't think I have heard of her. I'll google & see what I missed...
here's my list:
Jerry Lewis
Kirk Douglas
Zsa Zsa Gabor
Britney Spears
Dick Clark
Margaret Thatcher
Wavy Gravy
Jack Lalanne
Phyllis Diller
Bob Barker

I do believe I am the only one that picked Wavy Gravy. :p

[TankGirl]

http://www.exposay.com/celebrity-photos/amy-winehouse-2007-brit-awards-arrivals-fHa0mh.jpg

so this chick?? Never heard of her until now. Very "colorful" bio.
Had no idea. Things ya learn about here :D Guess I'll be keeping my eyes open for stories on her now. She kinda makes Courtney Love look tame in comparison.

[Melly French]

That's actually a really good picture of her. I picked her cause my sister said she saw pics of her with bloody shoes on from shooting up b/w her toes. Thats pretty rock bottem.

[TankGirl]

That's actually a really good picture of her. I picked her cause my sister said she saw pics of her with bloody shoes on from shooting up b/w her toes. Thats pretty rock bottem.

ya, I noticed some of the pictures of her were titled "heroin scars" with circles & arrows pointing to areas... then I saw the bloody pics of her boyfriend & her too. I had to keep in mind my family friendly status presently ~ she looks pretty hot in some pics. It's a shame she's on that distructive path. Apparently she's pretty talented, can't say that I've heard anything that I saw in her bio. I like R & B & various musics, I might've heard something, and just don't realize it yet.

[ParrotHead]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vfdl7-E80Q

Here is a duet with Charlotte Church & Amy Winehouse, Charlotte sounds much better, but if you listen to some of Amy's other stuff she is pretty talented also. Once on youtube listen to Amy's " F**k me pumps - Amy Winehouse (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EGk8nI9fvg&feature=related)

and I agree a shame she is very mixed up with drugs.

[Chicken Hawk]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vfdl7-E80Q

Here is a duet with Charlotte Church & Amy Winehouse, Charlotte sounds much better, but if you listen to some of Amy's other stuff she is pretty talented also. Once on youtube listen to Amy's " F**k me pumps - Amy Winehouse (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EGk8nI9fvg&feature=related)

and I agree a shame she is very mixed up with drugs.Wow. I wish I had seen that before I sent my list in. She's really got a Janis Joplin thing going there. Miss Church looks a little put out to have a junkie on stage with her. :eek:
The other song is killer funny. :p

[Bob Wegotababyitsaboy!]

This rule used to be the "Osama bin Laden" rule but maybe should be renamed the "Steve Fawcett" rule. The person needs to be confirmed dead within the year of the contest to get points. So if you picked Osama bin Laden this year, but they find his body and determine that he died in 2005 there will be no points. Furthermore, if you picked Steve Fawcett in 2007 but it isn't confirmed that he is dead until sometime this year then you get no points in 2007 even if he died last year, because he needed to be positively confirmed dead by 12/31/07 to count. Generally speaking, there needs to be a body. Or in the case of something like the Space Shuttle Columbia tragedy, knowing someone was on board is sufficient.

Instead of it being "knowing someone was on board is sufficient", shouldn't it be that a death certificate is issued?

[Jay]

[[Amy Wniehouse] kinda makes Courtney Love look tame in comparison. That's a pretty tall feat. :eek:

[Disaster Chick]

http://www.exposay.com/celebrity-photos/amy-winehouse-2007-brit-awards-arrivals-fHa0mh.jpg

so this chick?? Never heard of her until now. Very "colorful" bio.
Had no idea. Things ya learn about here :D Guess I'll be keeping my eyes open for stories on her now. She kinda makes Courtney Love look tame in comparison.

I've heard her "Rehab" song and think she's got one heck of a voice. It's just frustrating that she has all this talent...just imagine what she could do if she wasn't as messed up.

[aces1820]

Anyone have Indonesian dictator Suharto (http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSJAK4460820080109)? Could be in for 14 points soon.

[DAVED]

Anyone have Indonesian dictator Suharto (http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSJAK4460820080109)? Could be in for 14 points soon.
if Castro and Ariel Sharon can survive last year, this guy ain't dead yet. :D

[Bill Stamper]

I thoughtWavy gravy was already dead... I honestly did.

aww, that sux.
I noticed quite a few picked that Amy chick, I actually don't think I have heard of her. I'll google & see what I missed...
here's my list:
Jerry Lewis
Kirk Douglas
Zsa Zsa Gabor
Britney Spears
Dick Clark
Margaret Thatcher
Wavy Gravy
Jack Lalanne
Phyllis Diller
Bob Barker

I do believe I am the only one that picked Wavy Gravy. :p

[Ruthie]

Anyone have Indonesian dictator Suharto (http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSJAK4460820080109)? Could be in for 14 points soon.

Suharto was on my short list, but did not make the final cut. I agree, it is amazing that Castro and Ariel Sharon are still hanging in there.

[River City]

LOS ANGELES, California (AP) -- Johnny Grant, the avuncular honorary mayor of Hollywood who traveled the world as Tinseltown's No. 1 cheerleader for more than a half-century, has died. He was 84.

[Chicken Hawk]

Sir Edmund Hillary died today - searching for more info now

[Stitching Amy]

Sir Edmund Hillary died today - searching for more info now

Here's a link (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080110/ap_on_re_au_an/obit_edmund_hillary)to an article about his death.

I didn't know he was a beekeeper!

[Chicken Hawk]

Here's a link (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080110/ap_on_re_au_an/obit_edmund_hillary)to an article about his death.

I didn't know he was a beekeeper!Thanks. All I found earlier were tickers and breaking news headlines.

<kicking myself a bit for picking the wrong Hillary!>:p

[DAVED]

Christopher Bowman (http://www6.comcast.net/sports/articles/general/2008/01/11/FIG.Skating.Champion.Death/)

i only beat Helene with the announcement 'cause it's 4 am her time! :D

[Stitching Amy]

Christopher Bowman (http://www6.comcast.net/sports/articles/general/2008/01/11/FIG.Skating.Champion.Death/)

i only beat Helene with the announcement 'cause it's 4 am her time! :D

I just saw that now. He was such a good skater too. :(

[Mike in Buffalo]

Johnny Podres (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080114/ap_on_sp_ba_ne/bbn_obit_podres) of the Brooklyn Dodgers dies at 75.

[DAVED]

Johnny Podres (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080114/ap_on_sp_ba_ne/bbn_obit_podres) of the Brooklyn Dodgers dies at 75.
former Phillies pitching coach. why does it seem so obvious after they've died?

[KsherHomey]

LOS ANGELES, California (AP) -- Johnny Grant, the avuncular honorary mayor of Hollywood who traveled the world as Tinseltown's No. 1 cheerleader for more than a half-century, has died. He was 84.

When I lived in Hollywood I never liked Johnny Grant. He would do anything to hang out and be on camera with the celebraties. He thought he was cool by just hanging out with movie stars. He had the Kato Kaylan syndrome where if you hang out with moviestars you can live the life of a star without having to work for it. A friend & I even ran a campaign to have him impeached as Honorary Mayor. It never got anywhere because people kept trying to tell me I couldn't impeach someone who was an honorary mayor. I feel kinda sad he had to die to get him out of office, but am relieved he's finally gone, now we can get someone else to be the honorary mayor of Hollywood.

[Helene]

Brad Renfro, only 25.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22671919/

[Bill Stamper]

He had been on a collisoin course lately... I remember the heroin bust.

[Jay]

Brad Renfro, only 25.There's your train wreck. Doesn't look like anyone picked him.

[Melly French]

I picked him two years ago!!!!!! Man, i have a knack at picking young train wrecks.

[ParrotHead]

Castro Looks Frail, Alert in New Photos

http://apnews1.iwon.com//article/20080116/D8U6NRPG0.html

[Travis WOLF]

Quote:
Originally Posted by DAVED
i color-coded my list for some added help....

Al Davis
Fidel Castro
Betty Ford
Muhammed Ali
Bilawal Zardari
Roger Ebert
Nancy Reagan
Farrah Fawcett
Andy Rooney
Jerry Lewis



HA! That's FUNNY!! :D
I've rearranged mine to spell out similar!

Johnny Knoxville
Kirk Douglas
Jerry Lewis
Ernest Borgnine

Fidel Castro
Billy Graham
Michael J. Fox

Louis Farrakhan
Abe Vigoda
Betty White

Mine spells:
DEATH TO YOU!

Doris Day
LEs Paul
Ed Asner
PatTy Duke
MicHael Jackson

CourTney Love
Mickey ROoney

Richard Bruce "Dick" CheneY
Charles Osgood
David DUke

[Falling rock]

Bobby fischer dies

http://news.ask.com/news?q=bobby+fischer&apimg=2609587&qsrc=8&o=0&l=dir

[jim1986]

BRITNEY SPEARS
JACK CARTER
KEITH RICHARDS
BILL CLINTON
AL SHARPTON
MICHAEL JACKSON
FLORENCE HENDERSON
RUDI GUILIANI
MITCH MILLER
BARBARA BUSH

[george1861]

Earnie Holmes ex steeler car wreck 59(?)

[Taztug]

Just out of curiosity: Did anyone have this one on their list?:

Bobby Fischer (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080118/ap_on_re_eu/obit_fischer_22)

[Chicken Hawk]

<kicking myself a bit for picking the wrong Hillary!>:p Picked the wrong Fischer too. This is not a good trend. :rolleyes:

[River City]

TMZ has learned Rams owner Georgia Frontiere has died in L.A.

[$upes Fan (Formerly known as Daryn)]

I am just adding my name so that I can favorite this thread.

I didn't have time to compile a list this year. (Read - I didn't take the time):o

Daryn

[jim1986]

ALLAN MELVIN (85)

Played Sam the butcher on The Brady Bunch,& Barney Hefner on All in the Family.
Also on Andy Griffith, Dick Van Dyke, etc shows

[KsherHomey]

So whats the list looking like anyone score points yet?

[DAVED]

TMZ has learned Rams owner Georgia Frontiere has died in L.A.
i have the Raiders' owner, Al Davis.

[Melly French]

My NFL pick is ex NFL player Ron Springs, father to Shawn Springs, current NFL player. That is my only athlete on the whole list.

[Bob Wegotababyitsaboy!]

I would change one pick of mine if I could. Since I couldn't change my list after I started receiving yours it was too late to substitute this person. But mark my words... I think Bilawal Zardari is going to bring two people a LOT of points.

To prevent this for next year, you could require everyone to send in their lists to another account that you wont check until you finalize your list.
If I remember correctly, you do have a second account.

[Rich the Mixologist]

Suzanne Pleshette dies from lung cancer. (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080120/ap_en_tv/obit_pleshette)

[Bill Stamper]

Well I am on the board as are others... But I am sad that Mrs. Bob Hartley aka Suzanne Pleshette died.



http://www.pcfubar.net/wg/deadpool

[Bill Stamper]

There are a few of us now. Several of us just got 30 points for Suzanne Pleshette.

So whats the list looking like anyone score points yet?

[Hikini]

I just read an article about Suzanne Pleshette and was surprised to read that she had that deep voice from the time she was a small child.

[Helene]

John Stewart of the Kingston Trio, age 68

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22757984/

[Bill Stamper]

Congrats tjolly for getting 16 points for Allen Melvin.

[Bob Wegotababyitsaboy!]

John Stewart of the Kingston Trio, age 68

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22757984/

Assuming someone picked John Stewart, and John Stewart of the Daily Show dies this year, would they get points for both?

[Bill Stamper]

Jon Stewart has the TV show if I am not mistaken.

[Jay]

Jon Stewart has the TV show if I am not mistaken.Correct, the star of The Daily Show is Jon (no H) Stewart.

Suzanne Pleshette was my first alternate. Looks like I need to do more homework next time.

[Bob Wegotababyitsaboy!]

Jon Stewart has the TV show if I am not mistaken.

You are right, but that was just an example for the question.

[Ruthie]

I just heard on NPR that Heath Ledger (the actor) was found dead in Manhattan. Very sad -- a young man.

From the NYT blog:

http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/01/22/actor-heath-ledger-is-found-dead/

[Disaster Chick]

I just heard on NPR that Heath Ledger (the actor) was found dead in Manhattan. Very sad -- a young man. There's only a little info on his Wikipedia page as yet:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heath_Ledger

I don't think any of us had him on our lists, though.

Granted there was the break up with his baby's momma, but he seemed to be doing well. Shunned the limelight and really seemed to act for the love of acting and not fame. I never heard of any drug problems. This was very shocking.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/SHOWBIZ/Movies/01/22/heath.ledger.dead/index.html

And from TMZ:

TMZ has learned that 2006 Academy Award nominee Heath Ledger has died in NY.

He was found dead in his bed in one of his residences in Soho by his housekeeper at 3:35 PM ET today. Law enforcement sources tell TMZ they believe it was not a crime, adding pills were found near his body.

The 28-year-old actor has a two year old daughter with former fiancee Michelle Williams -- they separated in September, 2007. He plays the Joker in the upcoming Batman film, "The Dark Knight."

The NY Times (http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/01/22/actor-heath-ledger-is-found-dead/index.html?hp) is reporting a masseuse arrived at his apartment and was let in the door by a housekeeper, who then knocked on the door of Mr. Ledger's bedroom. When no one answered, the housekeeper and the masseuse opened the bedroom door and found Mr. Ledger unconscious. They attempted to wake him, and when they couldn't they called 911.

We're told when paramedics responded, the actor was in full cardiac arrest. They attempted to perform CPR on him, but were unsuccessful. He was pronounced dead at the scene.

[Melly French]

I couldn't believe it when I heard it on the radio. I heard a snip of it in the car and called my husband. I am just shocked. Wonder if it was suicide.

[Gothiqa]

wow. that sucks. i really liked him...


:(

[Lisa in Delaware]

I couldn't believe it when I heard it on the radio. I heard a snip of it in the car and called my husband. I am just shocked. Wonder if it was suicide.

My daughter mentioned it to me and I thought she was joking around since she picked up the story on a website that is normally known for exaggeration..definitely shocking.

[aces1820]

Anyone who did/will pick up the story that country singer Slim Whitman died the day after his birthday, it was in error as his publicist responded to the articles that Slim is still very much alive and well.

I heard the news about Heath on the raido this afternoon, what a shame, eh was so young, not to mention handsome, and all indications are that it was an accidental death.

[DAVED]

Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still dead

[River City]

boy with no one dying, its dead in here! :D

[Jay]

boy with no one dying, its dead in here! :DRemind me to put "Dead Pool 2009 Topic" on my list next year. :D

[River City]

Remind me to put "Dead Pool 2009 Topic" on my list next year. :D

ok :eek::D:eek:

[JudiOz]

Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still deadthanks for that update, Chevy :rolleyes:

[otis89]

Remind me to put "Dead Pool 2009 Topic" on my list next year. :D

BZZZZZZZTTTTTT!!!!!!!!

Oh, I'm so sorry, but the rules clearly state that the picks must be human.

[TankGirl]

may you rest in peace, sweet ~ easy on the eyes ~ Heath Ledger...
sorrows to hear of your untimely departure, but, many ache & wish you didn't have to go just now.... top of the game...

*bows & waves good day~ goodnight*

wishing your spirit & family well. May Matilda continue to shine your bright beautiful star ~smooches~

[BookMasterJMV]

Christian Brando, son of the late Marlon Brando, died today. Only 49 years old.

[Mike in Buffalo]

Christian Brando, son of the late Marlon Brando, died today. Only 49 years old.

Much older than Renfro was, but a train wreck nonetheless.

[Stitching Amy]

Ex-Indonesian dictator Suharto dies (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/indonesia_suharto)

[george1861]

George Habash founder of Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine.
Richard Darman former Budget Director (Reagan?)

[BookMasterJMV]

Gordon Hinckley, President of the Mormon Church, died today at the age 97.

[Helene]

Gordon Hinckley, President of the Mormon Church, died today at the age 97.

And another church leader, Archbishop Christodoulos, head of the Greek Orthodox Church, died today.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22873674/

[Kyle Schulze]

1. Sadam Hussein (you all know who he is)
2. Bob Barker (host of the price is right)
3. Gerald R. Ford (former U.S. president)
4. Gordon B. Hinckley (president of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints)
5. Jiang Zemin (former ruler of China)
6. Boris Yeltsin (former ruler of Russia)
7. Mikhail Gorbachev (former ruler of Russia)
8. Lillian Gertrud Asplund (oldest survivor of the Titanic)
9. Barbara Joyce West (survivor of the Titanic)
10. Elizabeth Gladys "Millvina" Dean (youngest survivor of the Titanic)

The 6th person died today from my list 2 years ago. Gordon B. Hinckley died at the age of 97. If the list was still active I would have 70 points although I can't seem to find last years list.

[Bill Stamper]

Both 2007 and 2008 are on the same database. There is a tab button to switch between the two

[Kyle Schulze]

Gordon Hinckley, President of the Mormon Church, died today at the age 97.

Oh guess you already knew that.

[TankGirl]

Christian Brando, son of the late Marlon Brando, died today. Only 49 years old.

wow, I thought he had gone awhile back... he was a serious partier & bad boy. dunno why I thought he was already gone?? interesting.
guess just cause I haven't heard his name in a long long time ??

[Bill Stamper]

My semi-regular effort to keep the link to the database easily accessible.



http://www.pcfubar.net/wg/deadpool

[Kyle Schulze]

Gordon Hinckley, President of the Mormon Church, died today at the age 97.

Oh guess you already knew that.

[Chicken Hawk]

My semi-regular effort to keep the link to the database easily accessible.



http://www.pcfubar.net/wg/deadpoolHave you considered putting it in your signature?

[Bill Stamper]

Now there's an idea. D'oh!

Have you considered putting it in your signature?

[Chicken Hawk]

Now there's an idea. D'oh!LOL...I have saved in my favorites at home but knowing where to find it elsewhere is nice too. ;) :D

[Bob Wegotababyitsaboy!]

Gordon Hinckley, President of the Mormon Church, died today at the age 97.

I took him off my list at the last minute to make my stepbrother happy.
I submitted 11 names, with Gordon B. Hinckley as my alternate, because I didn't have time to make sure everyone was still alive.

[Helene]

Margaret Truman, age 83

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22897931/

[ParrotHead]

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- A senior al Qaeda terrorist who allegedly plotted and carried out attacks against U.S. and coalition forces was killed in Pakistan, a knowledgeable Western official and a military source told CNN Thursday.

He was identified as Abu Laith al-Libi, 41, who was on the military's most wanted list.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/01/31/alqaeda.death/index.html


Any person identified as a "senior al Qaeda terrorist" would have been a potential candidate for the list. Along with any leader or political figure of a county in the Middle East.

But like the trainwreck picks, just which one to pick is the hard question to answer.

[george1861]

Manuel Padilla, Jr. Played Jai on Tarzan TV series & one of the "Pharoes" in American Graffiti.

[Bill Stamper]

In my email from Bob:


And my backup if some is already dead (I didn't have time to check):
Gordon B. Hinckley

Thanks

-Bob

I took him off my list at the last minute to make my stepbrother happy.
I submitted 11 names, with Gordon B. Hinckley as my alternate, because I didn't have time to make sure everyone was still alive.

[Helene]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22977765/

Earl Butz, age 98

[tjolly]

yeah i need my earl butz credit LOL

[Chicken Hawk]

yeah i need my earl butz credit LOLYer butz worth 2 points? :p

[jim1986]

http://www.deadoraliveinfo.com/dead.nsf/mnames-nf/Morse+Barry


Barry Morse (89) played Lt Philip Gerard from "The Fugitive" TV series

[DAVED]

Shell Kepler (http://www6.comcast.net/tv/articles/2008/02/05/Obit.Kepler/)

never heard of her

[Melly French]

I did. She was nosy nurse amy on GH for years. And she was born in Ohio.

[Bill Stamper]

One point per cheek of butz

yeah i need my earl butz credit LOL

[Ruthie]

Butz was a pretty cheeky fellow. One point per seems awfully stingy.

[Mike in Buffalo]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22977765/

Earl Butz, age 98

Bummer. :p

[tjolly]

Yer butz worth 2 points? :p

two points is better dan nuffin 4 me butz LOL

[River City]

Yer butz worth 2 points? :p I like big butts and I can not lie

:D:D:D

[Disaster Chick]

Does this mean my Butz will finally shink?:D Or does he have a son to ensure the size of our Butz never shrinks?:eek:

[Helene]

(Thank god we finally got some good cheeky jokes. I was worried about you all, a slow start but you finally got the ball running. ):p

[Jay]

Thank god we finally got some good cheeky jokes.Pun intended? ;)